carlton kirby leaves eurosport

theres nowhere like ENOUGH cycling on tv. All rights reserved. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. Having spent over 25 years in the field, he has seen a lot, as many other countless commentators have seen. It is not general knowledge, and it should be. To my mind, the motorcycles are the most dangerous because they have the least ability to stop. And, he is right about it. Agreed. Fully agree Kirby is the most irritable commentator ever. You have got to be kidding! ), there is a thread in the. What is his cycling background ? 26/8/22: Stage 6 of the Vuelta, Kirby informs us (clearly based on nothing) that Mark Padun is 'a master' at descending in the wet (at that precise moment, Padun is descending very gingerly, taking pretty poor lines). There is a rumour that the plane ticket has already been bought for Mark to leave the Tour, but I think the temptation is there for him to go to the Champs-lyses because he believes in his mind that he has worked out how to unpick Marcel Kittel, who is his main threat. Kirby remarks, Its not like a written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it. I've decided and bought a '21 Revolt which is nigh on identical in stack and reach to the Defy, only differences being a slacker front end and Well if you ever go to Chesterfield you will be called "youth" however old you are. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. The problem is that social media has allowed anyone and everyone to voice their opinion, regardless of their credibility. Being on the site always gives you extra material which makes the commentating so natural and energetic. You don't need to be that close to the riders to get snaps. Over 3,200 worth of amazing prizes from Pacenti Cycle Design and Saint Piran, including some stunning carbon wheels! You cant please everybody and as a commentator thats something you have to get to grips with. And thats where comes the utterly significant role of the commentator who not only has to fill the huge time span but needs to stay alert at all times. Whenever I watch an anglophone stream online because there is no other way for me to watch a race I have to think of the HIMYM episode where Barney goes to get Robin from Canada and, looking at the "funny" Canadian dollars, says: "It's like you want us to make fun of you". Also, Kirby criticises riders in almost every race. Whilst im not a great fan of Carlton Kirkby I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. Went for a bike ride earlier today. Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, a principal commentator for Eurosports cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. Kirby has more than two decades as a. The unrelenting, inane chatter (did any of us want to know that his wife had their third child by caesarean section? He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. Well over a 1000 signatories on that petition now. To show no fear is the best skill of all. if many people would do this via twitter it could at least give a sign. You have engineers popping in and out, you have guests from the different languages, and the only thing separating us from the Germans, on our left, and the French, on our right, are thin sound walls its completely open at the back, he says. Tech, reviews: tech [at] road.cc If you are not interested you can unsubscribe at any time. It is not just the press core looking for pictures for the following day. For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? There are many great cycling commentators around at the moment, Im afraid Kirby isnt one of them. A mile from home, looked behind me, moved to the centre of the lane, stuck my arm out to turn right, got Editorial, general: info [at] road.cc VN:When youre at the race, who are you talking to regularly to get your intel for the broadcast? or maybe you,re a relative ?? VN:What do you talk about differently when youre in the studio? Kittel was completely shocked, and has been getting more and more upset as this Tour has gone on. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. Whether they be dusty in the summer or wet in the winter, motorcycles are far too dangerous and get far too close to the bikes. If you don't like something, how else can you change it - by saying nothing? He has poor knowledge and really just annoys everyone. Kittel is not a broken man, but his supremacy has tumbled because Mark Cavendish has only gone and won four stages here. Yates was obviously cooked - why else would anyone work for dozens of kilometres and then give up in the final 2km? The prodigious British riderTao Geoghegan Hart laid into Kirby's"outrageous claims", and Owain Doull also chipped in to describe Kirby as a "proper muppet". All crescendo sports deserve to be treated as such. I speak no language other than English. The rest is very monotonous and quite naturally the onus of filling that gap falls on the commentator. What is the point? At least King Kelly is still there despite Harmon's departure. He believes. Controversial! Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. The Tour de Suisse is traditionally one of the last big races before the Tour de France. When youre on-site, even though youre there, youre still watching a monitor, Kirby says. As we reported at the time, the six-time Olympic champion tweeted that he had been on a Sunday bike ride with his son when they were almost run over by a van driver who drove at us, then proceeded to angrily inform me it was my fault we nearly died.. Kelly will probably kill him by the end. Commentating during the 2022 Ronde with 222km to go, Kirby says: Aranburu could have finished as high as 5th in Milan-Sanremo, but didnt think it was worth his while so he eased off at the end and came in 13th. Here they are listed below, but we already know there will be one change - Team Sky will be racing as Team Ineos, with the Tour de Yorkshire being its first race following the management company's sale to the petrochemical business. I think as well that audiences will be sympathetic, so even if they know were not there, we will be upfront and honest about it. Colnago is using social media to tease the arrival of its new E64 Performance, which well go out on a limb and guess is the companys attempt to tap into the rapidly growing e-bike market. If it goes on for two or three years, then people will notice because the freshness of what is in our heads will ebb. Without any editing, moderation, or credibility, it is all out in the name of fate. That is in fact my main Friday occupation. They support his knowledge and enthusiasm behind the mic, even after so many years. Next time you watch, ask yourself how many of his critiques are aimed against non-Anglophone riders. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport . Thats one of the vagrancies of Eurosport.. I think it is just individual race directors who decide who gets to ride these bikes. Youre at the finish line, essentially watching the TV albeit with extra screens.. I think there seems to be a bad feeling against cyclists and its really strange because theyre only people, he continued. Eurosport cant get away with this !! Advertising, commercial: sales [at] road.cc All material FarrellyAtkinson (F-At) Limited, Unit 7b Green Park Station BA11JB. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. They race ahead, dismount to get the tracking shots they need of the riders. Carlton Kirby is a sports commentator who is most known for his work commentating on the Tour de France. There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. It is really sad when you see the consequences of that. Some of which have been admitted, some of which weren't. At Eurosport, because the producer maynot necessarily be listening to the Englishcommentary, theyll be occasions when I goto Sean and say, so what do you think of Sagan? and hell start mulling it over and responding and then all of a sudden well get a producing lining up a cue pointin his ear, and hell have to switch from his usual, slow voice to speaking very quickly and wrapping up his point in five seconds for no apparent reason to the viewer. A football match lasts for hardly ninety minutes, a rugby match is over in eighty minutes, whilst a basketball game takes only thirty-eight minutes to finish. But there are always other lines to cross, and he just loves collecting these plaudits and the deserved success coming his way is just brilliant. Theres so much stuff going on because in front of us for starters, we have live timing, results sheets, stage profiles, live pictures, alternative live pictures and a sub-monitor with the schedule. We need to get to tomorrows finish line, and sometimes that is a four-hour drive. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. That is the way it appears. Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . i like the stuff the two GCN guys do, is it dan Loyd and Matt Stephens? Can you imagine Paris-Roubaix with Kirby commentating? For over 20 years, be it the Tour de France, Olympic Games, Monte Carlo Rally or Le Mans 24 Hours, his easy-going manner coupled with incisive commentary and a dramatic edge has made him an audience favourite. Like in any other sports, being a cycling commentator for a broadcast has its own perks & lows. It is irretrievable. All of this stuff adds to the vrit of the broadcast, and its stuff you cannot get in a studio in London. London live show preview! Shouldnt be that hard to organise with so many people here able to talk eloquently and intelligently for 4 hours. Ive now just watched the end of Milan-Sanremo again: Aranburu wasnt in the first group behind Morhoric, so he literally couldnt have come higher than 10th. From the Eurosports studios in London, covering the tour is not the same as waiting at the finish line. Such things impact ones reputation a lot, and there is no way around it. I don't know the guy but I wish in netherlands we would do it with mart smeets, danny nelissen and herbert dijkstra, who are complete idiots. I think this is what is powering Marks mind at the moment. Bridport cycles. He further says, "In tennis, you never talk through a point because the crowd doesn't. Plus the the week's top tech news, in: Flying Tom Pidcock wins Strade Bianche, in: Cyclists call on council to reconsider unsafe diversion, in: Call for Scottish safety portal that would "deliver justice", in: Campaigners: Remove pedestrian vs cyclist conflict, in: Highway Code changes haven't helped cyclists, Near Miss of the Day 853: Driver of lorry urging cyclists to Please take extra care near this vehicle fined for close pass (includes swearing), Continental unveils the "strongest" and "fastest" ever Grand Prix 5000 tyre models, Brompton boss frustrated to be fighting "war of attrition" against rip-off rivals, Remove conflict between cyclists and pedestrians, urge campaigners in wake of manslaughter case, Have bike tech wars turned cycling into Formula 1? There is no editing process, except between the brain and the larynx. If its one of those days where its going to end in a sprint and you need to cover 240km, then its gonna be a bit of a drag. Let us know what you think in the comments. We have to get him off eurosport. Whilst im not Carltons biggest fan (prefer Backstead w Harmon) I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. For me Kirby has the key ingredient I need from a commentator. You can do that by clicking one of these links - TAKES 30 SECONDS: https://help.eurosport.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new, https://help.globalcyclingnetwork.com/hc/en-gb/requests. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVams overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. The walls do move when they pile in too. He came off the corner leading, it was a right hand to the finish in Villars-les-Dombes. How can someone who watches so much cycling know so little? There used to be a 35 metre rule which seems to be flouted these days. The One Subscription to Fuel All Your Adventures. While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. You could hear a pin drop. Its a case of trying to keep everybody amused. I could paint the Galibier and Ventoux and even some of the rarer mountains by memory. Le point sur la situation de Yoann Offredo. Thomas De Gendt launched a solo attack from the break with 60 kilometres remaining of todays opening stage of the Volta a Catalunya, covering 163 kilometres and starting and finishing in Calella and the Lotto-Soudal rider now finds himself with a lead of almost three minutes on his rivals. Also, I would say many of his criticisms are unfair and/or cruel. Matt Stephens will be Eurosport's dedicated reporter on all Grand Tour coverage, bringing breaking news, updates, and interviews from inside the peloton. UPDATE: New online Zoomcast show, July 16, click through for tickets. As for the Sky Team Fans member - you wouldnt actually be Mr Kirby would you ???? The man, the myth, the chosen son. For me, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. Carlton Kirby: No matter if youre in a mobile unit at the finish, or in a studio with air conditioning and a coffee machine, youre doing the same thing, the view out the window is just different. That is exactly what has happened now. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. Continuing our discussion of 2020's cancelled/postponed races continues, Eurosport bon viveur Carlton Kirby discusses why riding up Swiss mountains is easier than riding up French mountains; villages accessible only by ladder; the world's highest lighthouse; 70s balladeer Gilbert O'Sullivan; human . How much longer do the cycling public have to suffer the idiotic commentary from Carlton Kirby ?? Conversely, a Carlton Kirby Fan Club exists for those who love the cycling commentator. The blokes an insult to all cyclists. Carlton Kirby pete54 Posts: 488 March 2014 edited October 2019 in Pro race For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? Thus concentrating becomes a difficult job for a commentator. You have a sound wall battle, where theyre shoving one way and were shoving the other while trying to sound calm and interesting on the commentary when actually what you want to do is knock someone out! And yet, love him or loathe him, Kirbys voice is as intrinsically linked to the Tour de France, for Eurosport viewers at least, as other famous voices across the sporting spectrum. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirby's voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosport's race coverage. "Oh! CK: You need the details. I like Carlton too, not as much as Harmon, granted, but I've given up on him coming back. Kirby says he opens the Tours road book (the bible for riders and media alike) first and foremost, having to change all of the notes to match his commentary notes and the on-screen graphics counting down the kilometres, rather than up as the book does. Ive done so much and been so many places that I mostly have all of them embedded in my head. So, what is Scottish Cycling / British Cycling doing about this? wow, all the power to you man! Baseless. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. He spoils everyones enjoyment of the race with his silly so called jokes and rubbish talk. And to be honest, most of us are scared of losing Carlton Kirkby in case Ant McCrossan takes his place. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. It is all kinds of stuff. Eurosport is transmitting the same amount of races as any standard european tv channel - go to Italy where it is their number 2 sport next to football - they dont struggle for professional sports commentators. Learn More, Blog: Abusing other cyclists highlights everything wrong with cycling in Britain, Chris Froome backed by strong Team Sky squad for Vuelta a Espana, Vuelta a Espana 2015 route: five stages which could decide the race, Vuelta a Espana 2015: five stages which could decide the race. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. In the early 1990s he became a freelance commentator. pic.twitter.com/MaRgbFKTet, The Ella Roberta Family Foundation (@rosamund_ElsFdn) March 25, 2019, @emmachamberlain at her soul cycling class. It is crazy. But Kirby is only interested in his own narrative: McEwen told him twice that Herrada had won, but Kirby kept eulogising about Batistella's 'win', even as Herrada celebrated further coming past the camera. And it is at that point, Cav comes out of the shadows to mug him at the line. You get the atmosphere and emotion of a place. You take yourself to the studio, call up your procyclingstats.com, do your research online. He's ruining the sport I love - I avoid many races purely because he's the commentator. PLEASE CONTACT EUROSPORT/GCN INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL AS SIGNING, BECAUSE THAT WILL PROBABLY HAVE A GREATER EFFECT. 14 Aug 2020. After my tweet he at least toned that down. He threw the toys out of the pram because his head is scrambled by these defeats. Kittel moves first into Cavendish, who follows the white line. This latest incident proves exactly that. I'm not sure if it was security, medical or a photographer who hit him, but essentially there was braking with four riders on the ground and the bike flipped before landing on the riders. It is a thrilling climax and its my job to convey that to the public. Various types of distractions are always ready for a commentator. I comfort myself with the fact that there are people out there who actually hate Terry Wogan. (PS If there's anything here about donating, that's the website host - nothing to do with this petition - there is nothing to donate to. We dont want this man commentating. Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. Not that itsa straightforward drive to the finish at the Tour, as Kirby explains. Carlton Kirby As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carlton's Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. It is all well having experience, but at some of the smaller races who are the guys riding these bikes? Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. I agree listening to the mans over stressed enthusiasm really gets on my nerves. A lot of these guys seems to have free rein on what they are doing. Kirby is a shockingly bad commentator, but Harmon is not much better. Its not something thats learned, or something you can prepare for. Kirby laughs. Its quite nice at the Tour de France that we have a roadbook and a history book of everything were going through. There are already calls for a convening of UCI protocol committee so they can start to get some proper rules together about it. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. All rights reserved. Get the latest race news, results, commentary, and tech, delivered to your inbox. Its a massive operation. This is why he often cracks jokes and laughs heartily. Eurosport's commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). Theres no doubt about it, the most difficult thing to do is cover nothing, he says. Anyone but dreary Declan Quigley please! It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. It is exciting being in a vast peloton, and the less experienced ones almost engage with it. From dealing with the never-ending frenzy of action, and incessant radio announcements, to having to tackle the director. I have been speaking to (former cyclist and Eurosport expert) Sean Kelly about it at various races, and we have both had hold your breath moments. I don't think much does get through to him, I really wish it did. You only need to listen to him to get that he has no time for Johnny Foreigner. Being a commentator is all about improvisation and Kirby knows this quite well considering his huge range of experience. There are no gaps you might shut up for five seconds or so to listen to the crowd, but thats it.. I like Kelly just out of respect more than anything. The road curved, but it was nothing to concern one's self with. All of that is avoidable if you have the right distance and the right protocol in place. But it was here he developed the ability to call a sprint. We have a quiet conversation about who is going to win today. And within the second group, he sprints hard, coming 13th overall. We met a young boy and young girl who recently lost their mum, and its really sad when you see that side of it. We had a heated debate about the incident and then the person drove away. CK:As a commentator, you dont have a great deal of contact with the riders. It is all clearly not set in stone at the moment, and I hope that I'm not going to have some sharp intake of breath moments on commentary just because bikes are needlessly endangering the lives of cyclists. Terms and conditions of use. From wrestling with sound walls, coping with dropped audio, working with Sean Kelly and deciphering the Kirby CODEC, we caught up with Kirby midway through the raceto getan insight into life on Tour as a commentator. I've been told to stop having a go at the motorcycles, but it is purely from a safety aspect and sadly this poor guy, who was very a vibrant talent at the age of only 25, has lost his life. Every stage of the Tour de France LIVE on British Eurosport HD. It is just crazy the amount of automotive stuff on the go, whether that is cars or motorcycles, that are getting too close to the riders, too often. This year alone, we had a Sky rider getting his elbow clipped by a security vehicle when he went for a gap when none existed. #cycling @carltonkirby whatsonreading.com Carlton Kirby True Tales of the Tour de France | What's On Reading I never say when Im on-site vs. at the race. And I said: Because I asked him! I asked him at breakfast, because when youre on-site, you can talk to the riders. Exactly - and if you had any insight into professional riding and experience actually being a pro like Sean Kelly or Rob Hayles - you wouldnt struggle to find commentary. Nonetheless, one other thing that Kirby believes, sets the very best apart is commitment. This is why he often cracks jokes and laughs heartily. When we drive to the finish well usually get on the course, because were badged up to do it, and then make notes. They basically work on the principle that people watching cycling in english are only interested in english speaking riders. Once they pass by, they have to repass the peloton to get the shots they want later on. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. It is not so bad if they are in front because the rider can tell the motorbike to go away, but if it is trailing the rider and the rider comes off, there is always the possibility of impact.

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